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Post by ET on Aug 22, 2015 19:42:30 GMT 1
Sorry for late reply, on hol with limited wifi!
Yep, paul has tweeted a few times now and header pics have changed. Rocky Horror is no surprise but the other 2 headers could mean anything and everything. His latest tweet, a YT vid of a song called The Break Up sounds clear to me, unless he just really likes that song, in which case it means nothing! haha! That's the problem, for us mere normal people tweeting things doesn't always mean anything, for celebs we read anything and everything into it!
As for hannah - well without actually knowing her I can't judge anything like a mental illness. Whatever her issues are I hope she deals with them with the help of professionals. Her health stuff did seem to start with Adam, before that she seemed 'normal' - meaning keeping fit etc.. but nothing extreme etc. Andrew isn't that kind of guy so I doubt she went overboard with it then. Adam showed up and bam! queue the health craze. As long as she doesn't try to convert me I'm OK with it, she's not the first celeb to tweet stuff like that, but it does seem extreme sometimes.
Since the days when I really followed her she does seem to have changed. And not just 'grown up' changed.
If andrew really was 'the one' why the split? Had to have been something serious, like cheating, for him to call it a day as he seemed really besotted with her. Wonder if the cheating was a factor (IF true) or delaying a wedding was an issue? Given how quickly he married M then Hannah stalling could have been a pain in the arse. Made him question things.
I didn't realise Adam removed his tweet.... interesting. Yep, weird he didn't get banned or suspended. Wonder if they ask the hacked person their opinion??
For now I'm calling a break up between H & P and they're just keeping it quiet. I hope I'm wrong as I want them both to be happy and that could work with them together, but if I'm right then ce'st la vie. Hopefully it's wasn't messy and quite amicable. I do wonder if Han tried to change Paul with all the health stuff, I think he'd welcome it to a degree - as anyone would - but not quite go so overboard with it. He still likes a drink etc... Anyway, unless they announce a split we have to assume they're still together. But as I said I've got a gut feeling it's done and dusted. Trying again is like that though, either works like a charm or shows the reasons you didn't stay together. I have a feeling it wasn't Paul this time though.
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Post by MG on Aug 23, 2015 3:12:02 GMT 1
It's interesting that you said you've noticed Hannah has changed and not just 'grown up' changed because some people said in 2013 that Andrew had changed.
I don't have Twitter so I don't know about the terms for suspending or banning someone. The only thing I can think of is that what Adam did post was true so that he was required to issue an apology for the comments that he was tweeting to the fans and for posting on her account. Did any of the fans get in trouble with Twitter for their comments to Adam?
Did she use Adam to deal with the relationship falling apart with Andrew then realize she didn't really want Adam so she took up with Paul again? If so, why? Because Paul is a known quantity? If she and Paul have split...no idea? Is he still at her place?
I think Andrew had leverage the other two haven't had at least. Andrew co-owned the property whereas it appears that Adam wasn't added to the mortgage documents. Paul probably hasn't been either. It's much easier to dismiss someone when you can kick them out; quite another if they're a co-owner. (I've not actually seen the documents so I'm just going on things stated in interviews which give the impression that they co-own.)
The Andrew and Hannah situation kind of reminds me of Paul McCartney and Jane Asher's relationship. It lasted about five years or so, with an engagement, but they never married. Instead, they split and Paul married Linda (for nearly 30 years until her death) and had children while Jane eventually married (30+ years) and had children.
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Post by MG on Aug 23, 2015 3:35:43 GMT 1
Andrew met Mariama July 11, 2013, got officially engaged St. Valentine's Day 2014, I think as she was wearing the engagement ring at Kerry Katona's baby shower Feb. 23, 2014, announced the engagement a month before marrying when Erin Allen's painting arrived he'd had commissioned, and married August 20, 2014.
Adam and Hannah did have alcohol on occasion as they tweeted May 21/22 2014 celebrating Adam's birthday and had beer then. Was that before she had health trouble?
I wish Andrew still had his vlogs public. In late December 2012, he was super happy, bouncing off the walls kind of happy. Christmas had gone really well. Even in the first few ones in 2013 he was that energetic goofball, but by April he was doing just one short vlog with his sister.
I've got to go for now.
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Post by MG on Aug 23, 2015 12:44:33 GMT 1
And the latest twist, Adam has posted a new apology which Hannah has retweeted. She has an illness of some kind which hasn't been sorted yet.
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Post by ET on Aug 23, 2015 17:36:43 GMT 1
I can't quite figure out 'how' Hannah has changed, apart from the health side, just different. I do know that Andrew used to be really happy go lucky and the things I've seen from comic cons (for instance) looked tense and strained. Specially the ones with Hannah. The 2013 ones (all of them IMO) seems so awkward. The one from 2015 was super awkward as well, even though 2 yrs later.... (sitting on the sofa - Wales?). He nearly ends up sitting on the floor the other end of the sofa!
As for twitter, I haven't seen anyone say they got into trouble for Adamgate. He clearly didn't. I did see the tweet he did the other week and it was quite week. And obviously not enough.
The Adam 'meeting' for Hannah happened about the same time as Andrew meeting his wife. Maybe Han found out Andrew was seeing someone (after the event) and took the next step with Adam? Could be possible. I do think the Handrew relationship was dead in the water long before the split. They both knew it judging by the comic cons.
Hannah and Paul have always had a close 'relationship' of some kind. Whether it was true love first or second time who knows. I think had H&P stayed in London and Paul had got an agent/job etc... they *could* have stayed together years ago. As I said before Andrew was the 'fun Paul' at that time - or the employed version of Paul maybe? Whether Paul is still at her place - no clue. Twitter doesn't give locations when people tweet unless they give permission. Instagram would be more helpful! I have noticed he has started to tweet more often, well, more often than before!
Yep, Andrew had at least a joint say in the property, but Adam and Paul have no such luxury.
I do find it strange when people get engaged and then wait so long to get married. Why bother in the first place? A ring doesn't mean anything! Heck, even vows don't mean much to some people any more! LOL! It didn't surprise me when H&A split. After no wedding date appeared and they didn't have kids (after 5 yrs!) then it didn't shock me. I mean, you've been together a while, you're committed but you can't plan a wedding or maybe even start a family together which you've both said you want?! After all it didn't take Andrew long to propose and plan a wedding! Looked like a simple wedding with no fuss too!
Ah, the Adam tweet Hannah has RT'd. It's interesting. So she has an ongoing health issue that is still to be determined? Obviously why she's given up all sorts ot stuff. Trying to eliminate the problems. I did wonder in what way it caused problems with them though. Tough on a relationship yes but what kind of tensions? Saying that, if you go through something like that and can't stay together then you're better off apart, no matter how much love you have together. I did notice he didn't make any kind of apology to Paul. Given the fact he was insulting I do find it strange. I also wonder how much Hannah and Adam have talked. I mean, why didn't she RT the other tweet he did?? Unless she unfollowed him before and this time he told her he would type a proper one?
On another note, did Hannah tell Paul about everything concerning her health?? Before (during rehearsals/tour) or after they got back together? That could also prove a factor in whether they're still together. Paul has def started to sound happier in his tweets anyway. So has Hannah. Whether they are still a couple, we won't probably find out for months, as H&Andrew didn't confirm it for a long time after their split!
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Post by ET on Aug 23, 2015 17:40:13 GMT 1
Re: Adam's apology not including Paul. Given how he also dragged his name through not only twitter but the papers, I can only hope he made a private apology. Paul at least deserved that.
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Post by MG on Aug 23, 2015 22:13:11 GMT 1
Sorry I didn't have time when I posted earlier to say anything more.
I found it strange as well that his first apology, which was posted for two weeks, was not acknowledged by her. Her Twitter account name was listed so she should have seen it, I think.
I'd really like to know what set him off as he stayed in the background for nearly two years.
Having dealt with my friend's illness, it absolutely takes a massive toll on everyone involved. That said, her husband and children are still with her and all are doing well. And we're still friends.
I can understand taking a little breather, but having it go as it did with her just reconnecting with Paul as if Adam hadn't existed and all they'd just gone through hadn't happened? How is any relationship going to work if she really is ill and they're still trying to figure out what's what? After how things went with Adam?
I just don't understand why she didn't tell everyone she wasn't well and needed to focus on her health instead of doing S Club and then the job at the hotel especially as she was stressing herself out more and more in addition to the stress put on her relationship with Adam. Would she even have been able to work at all if Adam hadn't been there helping her all that time? It is all encompassing when someone is so ill. I would come home to my family yet still spend time googling trying to figure out what was wrong with my friend, what things we could try, how else I might be able to help. I can well see her having to take lots of meds to get through everything. But why did she put her and Adam through all of that to begin with? Did she need the money that badly?
Private apologies all around would be ok with me.
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Post by J on Aug 24, 2015 3:05:33 GMT 1
I find this whole conversation very interesting because I was thinking pretty much the same exact things.Love reading it and while chime in with my opinion from time to time.
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Post by MG on Aug 24, 2015 4:00:56 GMT 1
There seem to be a few fans who aren't being quite so forgiving as they got into it with him in June on Twitter.
I would not be surprised if Adam did end up on anti-depressants after the year he'd had with Hannah. As it stands I can see this becoming more of the poor Hannah innocent victim scenario. I'd really like an explanation from Hannah about her actions in all of this.
Upon further thought, do any of you think that Hannah and Andrew got caught up in the Primeval and Abby/Connor whirlwind? They seemed to be the ones always put forth to promote the show, do the publicity, the photo shoots. Then, things calmed down and they realized they weren't really in the relationship they thought they were in initially? Co-owning everything had them kind of stuck together as well. Both sets of parents giving them trips. Perhaps they lost themselves.
Just some more ramblings from me there.
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Post by E on Aug 24, 2015 4:47:31 GMT 1
I find this whole thing interesting too. Especially about Hannah and Paul. I'm a fan of both of them, and I'm just curious if they're still together or not. There's just something that's not adding up.
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Post by MG on Aug 24, 2015 4:53:43 GMT 1
Hi E. Do you have any insights into this whole mess based on being a fan of both Hannah and Paul?
J, what specifically do you agree with? Can you articulate how Hannah or Andrew changed?
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Post by J on Aug 24, 2015 5:25:17 GMT 1
I agree with the whole aspect that the current situation of Hannah and Paul's relationship just isn't adding up to me either.To the others who have said they have believed that they may have split again I tend to agree if signs and social media is anything to go by.Some of the quotes and pictures and a suddenly going quiet about each other just seems to add up to that.I hope I'm wrong though as I love them together and have since I was a child.
As for Hannah and Andrew.I don't think Andrew has changed all that much but I agree with the person who said that when Hannah is in a relationship she seems too become more interested in what her other half likes. I had known about Hannah's relationship with Adam but I don't ever remember her being pictured wearing the engagement ring.Which I find quite odd and I don't know of anyone who would be ok with that.
Love finding this board and people to talk about this all as I find it all very interesting to speculate as I am in the US and it's quite hard to find people to talk about this with.I am a fan of Hannah,Paul, and Andrew and wish them all the best .
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Post by E on Aug 24, 2015 5:39:52 GMT 1
Not much, really. I find it so weird that they haven't really tweeted to each other, favorited each other's tweets, or even take pics with each other if they went out.
After they came back from their holiday getaway in Rome, it's like they went their separate ways. I mean, they deserve their privacy, so if they're keeping quiet, that's very understandable.
As for Paul's tweet of the video titled "The Break Up", that raised my eyebrows really quick. But he added "stolen back x" with wink face emojis and a heart. That could mean two things to me: he stole back Hannah, or he deleted that video and tweeted it again.
And Hannah, she's giving me a lot of mixed signals with her quotes. She's been posting quite a few quotes and I relate to them, but I'm wondering what she's implying to. And now that Adam tweeted a proper apology to her, there's an even more twist. I really hope that Adam apologized to Paul too. And also Hannah's fans.
You guys said that he apologized before, but what did he say? I missed it lol. Also, there are a lot of things you guys have went into depth about and it just blew my mind because I was wondering the same things regarding Hannah and Paul and Adam, lol.
We just have to sit back and watch. I just hope the best for Hannah and her health.
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Post by J on Aug 24, 2015 6:25:33 GMT 1
I agree.I hope Hannah is feeling better and happy and healthy either way. I normally wouldn't take social media as a sign of anything going on but when it went from a ton to nothing it was very strange along with the quotes,pictures and videos but maybe they are just wanting more privacy.The things that make you go hmmmm.
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Post by MG on Aug 24, 2015 9:58:29 GMT 1
Something just popped into my head. What was in that really huge drink of Pauls' that Hannah tweeted a pic of? Was she actually drinking it or just pretending? I think it was a rootbeer float or something. Anyway, that would have had tons of sugar and possibly caffeine as well so is the no sugar or caffeine thing new? If not, why would she joke around about that?
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